Why Warrior Players Prefer Str Shields Over Tactics? - Guild Wars Forums

Ownager · Sep 20, 2006, 10:54 AM // 10:54

FROM WHAT I SAW warriors always buying like stance shields that req str couse any 1 please tell me what heppent?what skills str has that it makes it so good and wanted?

Anryla · Sep 20, 2006, 11:20 AM // 11:20

Some warriors don't have any points in tactics sometimes, but almost always have in strength, this is what I can think of atleast

Caleb · Sep 20, 2006, 11:20 AM // 11:20

A lot of people purchased Sentinal armor for their warriors with the release of Factions for the 100AL base. This armor requires 13 Strength to receive the full armor level. They are meeting the requirement of their armor, and putting the rest of their attribute points into their weapon rather than tactics.

Still tactics for me though!

Ownager · Sep 20, 2006, 11:24 AM // 11:24

bah thats stupid becouse tactic skills adds so much more than 20 armor !!heh thanks for answer that does make sense

majoho · Sep 20, 2006, 11:39 AM // 11:39

Another reason - strength is superior for farming (soloing) -> Dolyak Signet, Endure Pain, "I will survive", Sprint/Rush

For normal PvE though tactics is better.

(obviously that's just my opinion).

Blackhawk · Sep 20, 2006, 11:44 AM // 11:44

It all boils down to what you're doing more of really, just get both types of shield and problems solved

Cherno · Sep 20, 2006, 12:44 PM // 12:44

When playing a dmg warrior most of the time my points are all in my weapon attribute and strength. As said above, strength gives a couple of very nice skills to let you take a bit of a pounding while not being full on tank (tactics stances aren't the end all be all btw) Dolyak Sig, Endure Pain and a number of attack skills are linked to strength as well.

When I go full tank, I have no points in my weapon and just go with Strength and Tactics.

Priest Of Sin · Sep 20, 2006, 03:20 PM // 15:20

Strength is so broken and useless... I prefer tactics! Or a healthy mix between tactics, strength, and my weapon. Dolyak Signet+Watch Yourself! ftw

majoho · Sep 20, 2006, 04:13 PM // 16:13

yeah right, as if you know what you're talking about.

For your information Dolyak is strength and you need 15 in Strength to keep it up at all times.

Hollerith · Sep 20, 2006, 04:18 PM // 16:18

...and you'd need a healthy mix of Tacs and Strength for both Dolyak & WY?

majoho · Sep 20, 2006, 04:20 PM // 16:20

not really since WY is an adr. skill

Kayelyyb · Sep 20, 2006, 04:21 PM // 16:21

why strength is prefered should be obvious. for each point of strength you get 1% armor penetration. so if u want to do damage u put all your points into strength and to weapon type you prefer .

Hephaestus Ram · Sep 20, 2006, 04:25 PM // 16:25

Another wo/mo asking a question and then calling people stupid when
they answer it. Gotta love them.

I prefer strength based shields too, but I like to maximize damage output
and trust the healers to back me up.

N8DOGG · Sep 20, 2006, 04:32 PM // 16:32

I have too many sheilds....I do have one of each of the collectors sheilds, str and tact, I also have an enchant one a +30 all the time one, a hexed one.....

You use what shield you need for your build, if I find a new build I go and get a new sheild.

Hollerith · Sep 20, 2006, 04:40 PM // 16:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by majoho

not really since WY is an adr. skill

I don't see your point.

Strength's inherent effect is crappy (only AP's when using attack skills), so pumping up strength for something besides the skills or Sentinal's armor is not worth it.

The Sentinal's theory makes most sense to me. I assume people choose equipment based on build, but I think that's a long reach.

The Pointless · Sep 20, 2006, 05:20 PM // 17:20

Only reason I would have to use Tactics is Healing Sig,, which is rubbish. Honestly, I have no idea why Wammos use it when they have perfectly useful Monk heals at their disposal. I, as a W/Me, use Ether Feast.

Skuld · Sep 20, 2006, 05:25 PM // 17:25

Please explain why heal. sig. is "rubbish".

Nickhimself · Sep 20, 2006, 05:29 PM // 17:29

I definitely prefer Tactics over Strength.

Bonetti's > all Str skills.

The Pointless · Sep 20, 2006, 05:43 PM // 17:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skuld

Please explain why heal. sig. is "rubbish".

That -40 Armour. Not a good thing in the middle of a fight.

Electric Sky · Sep 20, 2006, 05:48 PM // 17:48

Strength is the Warrior's Primary attribute, so i guess thats why they go for shields req strength rather than tactics

Sep 20, 2006, 10:54 AM // 10:54	#1
Ownager Academy Page Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: israel Guild: Silent Assassin Profession: W/Mo	Why Warrior Players Prefer Str Shields Over Tactics? FROM WHAT I SAW warriors always buying like stance shields that req str couse any 1 please tell me what heppent?what skills str has that it makes it so good and wanted?

Sep 20, 2006, 04:32 PM // 16:32	#14
N8DOGG Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: here Guild: Modified Soul Society [SOUL] Profession: W/Mo	Shields I have too many sheilds....I do have one of each of the collectors sheilds, str and tact, I also have an enchant one a +30 all the time one, a hexed one..... You use what shield you need for your build, if I find a new build I go and get a new sheild.

Sep 20, 2006, 05:48 PM // 17:48	#20
Electric Sky Krytan Explorer Join Date: May 2006	Strength is the Warrior's Primary attribute, so i guess thats why they go for shields req strength rather than tactics Last edited by Electric Sky; Sep 20, 2006 at 05:52 PM // 17:52..

Sep 20, 2006, 11:20 AM // 11:20	#2
Anryla Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Apr 2006 Guild: Alt Control Delete Profession: W/	Some warriors don't have any points in tactics sometimes, but almost always have in strength, this is what I can think of atleast

Sep 20, 2006, 11:20 AM // 11:20	#3
Caleb Nil nisi malis terrori. Join Date: Aug 2005 Profession: Mo/Me	A lot of people purchased Sentinal armor for their warriors with the release of Factions for the 100AL base. This armor requires 13 Strength to receive the full armor level. They are meeting the requirement of their armor, and putting the rest of their attribute points into their weapon rather than tactics. Still tactics for me though!

Sep 20, 2006, 11:24 AM // 11:24	#4
Ownager Academy Page Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: israel Guild: Silent Assassin Profession: W/Mo	bah thats stupid becouse tactic skills adds so much more than 20 armor !!heh thanks for answer that does make sense

Sep 20, 2006, 11:39 AM // 11:39	#5
majoho Forge Runner Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Denmark	Another reason - strength is superior for farming (soloing) -> Dolyak Signet, Endure Pain, "I will survive", Sprint/Rush For normal PvE though tactics is better. (obviously that's just my opinion).

Sep 20, 2006, 11:44 AM // 11:44	#6
Blackhawk Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jun 2006 Profession: N/	It all boils down to what you're doing more of really, just get both types of shield and problems solved

Sep 20, 2006, 12:44 PM // 12:44	#7
Cherno Forge Runner Join Date: Jan 2006 Guild: Stars of Destiny Profession: E/	When playing a dmg warrior most of the time my points are all in my weapon attribute and strength. As said above, strength gives a couple of very nice skills to let you take a bit of a pounding while not being full on tank (tactics stances aren't the end all be all btw) Dolyak Sig, Endure Pain and a number of attack skills are linked to strength as well. When I go full tank, I have no points in my weapon and just go with Strength and Tactics.

Sep 20, 2006, 03:20 PM // 15:20	#8
Priest Of Sin Jungle Guide Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Sitting upon Kerrigan's Throne. Guild: Live For The Swarm [ZERG] Profession: Me/N	Strength is so broken and useless... I prefer tactics! Or a healthy mix between tactics, strength, and my weapon. Dolyak Signet+Watch Yourself! ftw

Sep 20, 2006, 04:13 PM // 16:13	#9
majoho Forge Runner Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Denmark	yeah right, as if you know what you're talking about. For your information Dolyak is strength and you need 15 in Strength to keep it up at all times.

Sep 20, 2006, 04:18 PM // 16:18	#10
Hollerith Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Sep 2005	...and you'd need a healthy mix of Tacs and Strength for both Dolyak & WY?

Sep 20, 2006, 04:20 PM // 16:20	#11
majoho Forge Runner Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Denmark	not really since WY is an adr. skill

Sep 20, 2006, 04:21 PM // 16:21	#12
Kayelyyb Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Mar 2006 Guild: Founder of Nerfs Are [Whak] Profession: N/Me	why strength is prefered should be obvious. for each point of strength you get 1% armor penetration. so if u want to do damage u put all your points into strength and to weapon type you prefer .

Sep 20, 2006, 04:25 PM // 16:25	#13
Hephaestus Ram Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jun 2005 Guild: None Profession: W/E	Another wo/mo asking a question and then calling people stupid when they answer it. Gotta love them. I prefer strength based shields too, but I like to maximize damage output and trust the healers to back me up.

Sep 20, 2006, 05:20 PM // 17:20	#16
The Pointless Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Stuck in the UK Guild: Rage International [RAGE] Profession: W/Me	Only reason I would have to use Tactics is Healing Sig,, which is rubbish. Honestly, I have no idea why Wammos use it when they have perfectly useful Monk heals at their disposal. I, as a W/Me, use Ether Feast.

Sep 20, 2006, 05:25 PM // 17:25	#17
Skuld Furnace Stoker Join Date: Sep 2005 Guild: Thousend Tigers Apund Ur Head [Ttgr] Profession: A/	Please explain why heal. sig. is "rubbish".

Sep 20, 2006, 05:29 PM // 17:29	#18
Nickhimself Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Your face Guild: True Gods Of War [True] Profession: W/Mo	I definitely prefer Tactics over Strength. Bonetti's > all Str skills.